Random Fan Theories About Rey And Kylo Ren That Will Mess With Your Head And Your Heart (13 items)

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  (#6) Rey Has Already Seen Kylo Ren’s Violent Future

  There are countless interpretations of Rey’s force-related visions in The Force Awakens, but Reddit user Lonzo_bald has one of the hottest takes, and it involves Kylo Ren:

  In The Last Jedi, We see that Kylo’s attack on the Jedi temple was triggered by Luke activating his lightsaber near Kylo so that Kylo thought Luke was trying to kill him. The attack on the Jedi temple was not planned by Kylo.

  My theory is the knights of Ren didn’t exist at that time and what we saw in Rey’s dream after she touched the lightsaber in Episode VII was the knights standing at a massacre that has not happened yet. Essentially Rey saw into the future there and that is where the finale of the new trilogy will take place.

  Also I believe the Knights of Ren were acknowledged in Episode VII but that can be accounted for as they could easily be being trained or just beginning.

  They could easily become new supreme leader Kylo’s replacements for the Imperial Guard.
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  (#9) Supreme Leader Snoke Was Manipulating Both Kylo And Rey From The Very Beginning

  Kylo Ren and Rey obviously share some sort of connection, and Reddit poster dibidi theorizes that the common denominator between the two could be long-term manipulation at the hands of Snoke:

  Consider: Anakin was force conceived by Plagueis/Sidious.

  What if Rey is the attempt of Snoke to do the same thing, except he’s not powerful enough to force conceive a child. He instead is powerful enough to imbue the force into an already conceived child.

  Rey was Snoke’s contingency plan for an apprentice if he was unable to turn Ben Solo to the dark side.

  This explains why Snoke seems to be familiar with Rey.

  This explains why Rey is seemingly the counterpart force-wise to Kylo Ren.

  This explains why Rey’s parents probably found it easy to sell her off; once Snoke turned Ben, Snoke did not need Rey anymore and screwed Rey’s parents over. They sold Rey to Unkar Plutt as a way to recoup their losses.

  More importantly, this does not contradict TLJ which established that Rey was born a nobody.

  This also provides parallelism to Anakin’s story of being born a nobody too.

  Finally this provides dramatic irony assuming all of this is true — Snoke created Rey as a dark side counter measure to Ben Solo if Ben could not be turned. Ben turned to the dark side and Snoke abandons Rey. As a result, Rey then becomes the light side counter measure to Kylo Ren.
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  (#12) Rey And Kylo Are Destined To Switch Sides

  The folks over at PopSugar make their living on pop culture speculation, and they have an incredibly troubling vision of the future for Kylo Ren and Rey, according to writer Ryan Roschke:

  We know Kylo Ren is very troubled. It's clear his journey to the dark side has been tumultuous, and Han Solo very nearly draws him out of it. Rey, on the other hand, seems to have a darkness in her. There's that moment during her lightsaber duel with Kylo Ren, where she very nearly delivers a deadly blow and kills him. Furthermore, Kylo recognises this darkness in her as well. He offers to train her!

  What if they switch spots? What if Kylo pulls Rey to the dark side just as he finds himself drawn to the light? What if all the heroes are actually villains and vice versa? It could change the whole trilogy as we know it.
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  (#13) Snoke Sacrificed Himself To Bring Kylo And Rey Together

  TVTropes’ WildMassGuessing section allows users to anonymously speculate about the future of various media franchises, and the section has collectively come up with some humdingers, including:

  Snoke may not be a true Sith Lord, but he is a being of the Dark Side, and therefore can only think of success in the context of one trope: Kill and Replace. The reason his plan failed in both The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi is not merely because Evil Cannot Comprehend Good, but also Pure Evil Cannot Comprehend Morally Conflicted, Emotionally Unstable Evil.

  Snoke assumed that every step in his plan to connect Kylo and Rey through a Force Bond, manipulate Kylo into killing his own master, then taking the throne of Supreme Leader the first chance he had, with Rey willingly accepting his offer to join him would work because that's the way he would think.

  Snoke assumed that connecting Rey and Kylo through the Bond would make them understand each others' plights and join forces in the end. He assumed that the reason Kylo Ren became emotionally compromised after killing Han Solo was not because he had just, you know, killed his father, but because Han Solo 'meant nothing' to him — that he needed a real father figure, the person who raised him, to kill. He assumed that making Kylo Ren hate him, bullying Kylo and metaphorically castrating him by forcing him to take off his mask and feel ashamed of his connection to his grandfather would strengthen Kylo's connection to the Dark Side through anger and hate, not resentment and self-loathing.

  Snoke's smile just before Kylo kills him, and the odd emphasis he places on Kylo Ren 'striking down his true enemy', is not an example of him misreading the situation. Up until his death, he believes he has won. The first signs of his plan falling apart only happen after Rey refuses Kylo Ren's offer, which reveals that even after everything Snoke has done, Kylo Ren is still not ready to conquer the galaxy. Perhaps he will never be ready.

  Snoke assumed everything, understood nothing, and paid the ultimate price — not just his life, but any chance of the First Order succeeding in his apprentice's incompetent hands. If Snoke wasn't a villain, it would be tragic.
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  (#2) Kylo Lied About Rey’s Parentage

  Most viewers of The Last Jedi took Kylo Ren’s reveal of Rey’s parentage as a fact, but Reddit user itrytowrite1 doesn’t quite believe the words of old Ben Solo:

  In TFA flashback scene we see a ship leaving Rey on Jakku. She is crying and screaming when this happens.

  In The Last Jedi Kylo tells Rey this: You are nobody. Your parents are nobody. They were filthy junk traders, sold you off for drinking money. They are dead in a (inaudible) grave on Jakku desert. If the parents were really to die on Jakku and be buried in a desert grave, the parents must have stayed on Jakku, yet we see a ship leaving Rey and leaving Jakku.

  Plus, can junk traders afford such a good looking space ship? Also, if you google 'ship from Rey's flashback' it surely doesn't look like a ship that is designed to carry junk. It looks like a small ship, a lot smaller than the Millennium Falcon.
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  (#8) Kylo Was Playing Both Snoke And Rey In The Throne Room

  Reddit user mickluchiano213 thinks that people aren’t giving Kylo Ren enough credit for cleverness,

  While watching the film I was personally shocked to find out that Snoke was behind the merging of Kylo and Rey’s minds.

  Rey and Kylo both knew the other had nothing to do with it. I believe Kylo figures out pretty quickly that it was Snoke and that he will have to kill Rey.

  Upon figuring this out he realizes he is now in a position a power with Rey and with Snoke. He lets Rey see the good side of him that still has a chance of turning back to light. He lets Snoke see the anger and hate towards Luke, the Jedi, and the rebels. He is giving them both what they want and both believe that they will win him over.

  In reality Kylo does care for Rey much more than he cares for Snoke. But more than anything Kylo wants power. He decides he will continue the cycle and do what his hero (Vader) should have done. Kill his master and rule the Galaxy with the one person he cares about. (Luke for Vader and Rey for Kylo).

  He knows Rey is filled with a lot of emotion much like him. And knows that he, a young strong man, will have a much longer reign than that of ancient, weak Snoke. And he will have a much stronger enforcer in Rey.

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