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(#1) You Don't Think Of Targets As People
Redditor /u/lostninja815 asked:
Is it hard to take someone's life? Do you wake up in the middle of night feeling sorry for your victims?
Redditor /u/throwaway55667788 replied:
It is very easy because you don't think of them as people. You think of them as jobs. That makes it as simple as pushing a button. But yes, I suppose I do feel sorry for some of my victims. It's likely more than a few had done nothing wrong. I have nightmares about some jobs that I would not have done in retrospect. I have insomnia.
So I do literally wake up some nights and think I don't deserve to live.
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(#2) What Motivates Someone To Call In A Hit?
Redditor /u/ryeinn asked:
What kind of motives did people who hired you give? Or did they not give any?
Were there riders attached to killing contracts?
Redditor /u/throwaway55667788 replied:
The majority of them, I never knew the motives. Most I suspect were competitors involved in the industries of my family friends. A few were in very far away locations - these I think were contracted through my employer. I don't know many questions because it is not the kind of business in which one asks questions.
There were some riders. Generally deaths were specified as either quick or slow. Occasionally they were more specific - staged suicides, accidents, or in a specific location. Some were particularly gruesome.
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(#3) The Hitman's Backstory
Redditor /u/paradime asked:
I'd love to know how you get into this sort of business?
Redditor /u/throwaway55667788 replied:
I started in the employment of a family friend's business as an errand-runner. When they saw that I was good at doing what they told me, they started offering more overtly illegal jobs. It was always up to me whether or not to take a given job.
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(#4) Hits Require Extensive Planning
Redditor /u/Vredesbyrd43 asked:
How much work did you put into your hits? Was there a lot of planning and being careful about not getting caught, or was it more just like shoot and run?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
No, we put a lot of work into it. Planning could take weeks of following them, learning them, and then hitting them. Sometimes we were told to pick them up and not kill them (kidnapping). This was for higher up people.
When I was younger, it was a simple run up, rob them, shoot, and get away. I moved into more complex movements. But yes, sometimes the easiest thing to do was stage a robbery of the person and do it there.
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(#5) What Type Of Person Becomes A Hitman?
Redditor /u/Opheltes asked:
How many people did you kill?
How old are you now?
When you were a hitman, did your family know? Do they know now?
What personality traits makes someone a good hitman? What about a bad one?
You said elsewhere that "we" put a lot of effort into planning. Does that mean you worked with other people? How did you get alone with them?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
I stopped counting when I was 18. I can't remember that exact number, maybe 12-22, maybe more.
I am 32 now.
No, they did not know what I did, but they knew who I worked for. I think some members of my family found out later. I come from a small place. Word gets around.
What traits does it take? Patience and understanding. Being hot-headed is a bad thing.
Yes, you always need to work with other people. We formed teams and it was treated almost like a special group. You knew people and their families, but kept everything loose. Presents for the kids, knowing you may kill them one day.
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(#6) Never Make It Personal
Redditor /u/briteyednbushytailed asked:
Have you only ever killed people for the cartel? Or have there been some personal kills too?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
I never killed anyone for my benefit, it was always work. You could fight with me and I would only do what I needed to defend myself...
Now if the bastard had a gun, I would run and come for him later.
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(#7) An Ex-Cartel Killer Might Come Back, If The Price Was Right
Redditor /u/CVTHIZZKID asked:
Do you work a legal job now, or do you still work for the cartel?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
Yes, I have a legal job now. I run machinery at an olive oil plant/farm. I don't work for them, but if they contact me, I would perhaps take the job if it paid enough... $5-8k plus 1 kilo of weed.
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(#8) Killing Gets Easier With Time
Redditor /u/Romandi asked:
What did you feel when [you] killed a man for the first time? Did you kill women or children? Which weapon did you use?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
The first time I felt like throwing up, it was the strangest feeling in the world. It is like understanding in the world you are nothing and that is all. In a moment you are here and the other you are not. Your problems go away. I remember that night sweating, thinking everyone knew I did it. It slowly fades in memory and you forget.
I used all kinds of weapons. My first time was with a rusted revolver type pistol. I don't remember much other than being told I had 3 bullets and that was it.
No children. We tried to avoid that. Has it happened? Yes, but that is life. Only those who deserved it were killed. A sapo is a sapo regardless of gender. (*Sapo is slang for frog, which can be used for people who assist police.)
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(#9) Killing Is Not Enjoyable
Redditor /u/Romandi asked:
Did you like killing people? Or treated it just like some kind of job?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
I never liked to do it. I didn't get some kind of pleasure from it, if that's what you mean. I came from a very poor place. My home was made of brick with carpet over dirt. There was no school and no way to better our situation. I did it because I was hungry and my family needed to survive. You become a zombie to it. You just do and use what you earn to make life easier.
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(#10) A Complicated Kill
Redditor /u/Romandi asked:
Can you tell about your most difficult tasks? No names and places, of course.
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
Rival higher up leader had to visit a neutral city for a funeral. The city was neither controlled by his group nor ours. He took several bodyguards and 2 trucks. We waited for him to leave a nightclub, and while walking to the car we tried to ambush him. The young guys started shooting and people started running everywhere. In the confusion, he managed to flee on foot. Now with cops in the area, we had to leave. We had to get him before he left town to safety.
We knew they only had 2 trucks so we waited them out. If [the] guy didn't send people to get the truck, he would still be alive. He sent someone for the truck and we followed it. We found where he was staying and watched. We could not move in because it was near a police station. We followed them when they finally drove out of town, we rammed their trucks with ours and had them pull over. Over a PA system we offered them their lives for their leader. They took the deal and handed him over, where he was killed, and then they too were killed.
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(#11) Sometimes, It's Best To Kill From Afar
Redditor /u/Romandi asked:
Did you use snipers?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
I was not involved but did hear about someone sniping out a person who always stayed locked in their house. They stayed in the house across the street and took the first shot they had a chance to do so. From the story I was told, he was setting up the equipment when the person was stepping out of the shower, walking into the bedroom. Instead of setting up, he set up the rifle and took the shot, he then left within a few minutes.
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(#13) Only God Can Judge
Redditor /u/moodorks asked:
Are you going to Hell?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
I believe it was to be the plan of either God or the Devil. To have good you need bad. If I was to become what I am, GOD chose this for me. He can forgive all sinners and I would like to confess to a priest beforehand.
It will be up to him to decide where I go. I have no say in it. Of course I would like to say I'm going to Heaven, but I have done things others consider bad.
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(#14) Even Hitmen Have Regrets
Redditor /u/Baydude98 asked:
Do you have any regrets over what you did? If you could go back, would you stop yourself from doing anything?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
Yes. I wanted a normal life, to go to school, learn a trade, and support my family. That was not the case, and because of that it led me down a path. I'm thinking I learned a trade, just not a good one.
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(#15) Not All Weapons Are Created Equal
Redditor /u/Romandi asked:
Did you have any favorite weapon? Did you use one weapon for some times or a new one for every new hit? Did you prefer some kind of weapon against others? Did you train your shooting (or other) skills?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
Yes, I like German guns, they don't misfire. I like H&K and Bushmaster. We never traveled with our weapons. We would go to the location and use what they had. It would be too risky driving around with weapons all the time. We would practice shooting several weapons and we got training from ex-marines, Russians, and FARC groups.
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(#16) How Does The Cartel Obtain Their Guns?
Redditor /u/deprivedchild asked:
How did you procure weapons? What were the most common available?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
Many were bought legally in the US and smuggled to Mexico. Machine guns and handguns are easily available. A 9mm unused sells for $200 here, but the bullets run you about $5 each.
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(#17) How Does A Hitman Get Away With It?
Redditor /u/KingStannisTheMannis asked:
What did you do in order to cover your tracks?
Redditor /u/Elchinola replied:
Simple ways to cover your tracks: use different paperwork for everything; rent a room under a different name; dress nice for work, dress normal at home. I would switch cars all the time. Also, use cars with American license plates and when pulled over, give the cops a fake American driver's license. Anything to send them off chasing a fake person.
Money to just bribe people to look the other way was and is the best way to make sure you get home.
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